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Big news flash from MM.
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Topic Started: Aug 16 2014, 01:10 PM (6,899 Views)
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Oct 14 2014, 08:19 AM
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and he was let go from VM too, probably roughly the same things too. He thought he was the moon, turned out he was an eclipse that smelled like green cheese!
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Oct 14 2014, 08:44 AM
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I will be so happy when the new Adam shows up and people can stop talking about MM and also mainly because I want this Billy Chelsea thing to be done and over with.
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Oct 14 2014, 09:51 AM
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OK, so my screen name contains "Days" and my avatar is of Deidre Hall, I'm still well aware of everything going on in the soap world, and I have massive respect for Y&R. I watched it regularly until ATWT was cancelled, and on and off after that. I'll admit that I thought MM was talented. What he doesn't seem to get is his "talent" isn't enough and an actor can't be universally disliked by the rest of the cast and crew. No one is irreplaceable in this industry, and that goes for soaps, movies, prime-time, stage, and music.
These rabid MM fans may exist, but I have often thought they were phantoms that MM enlist to keep his name propped, or worse, a bored MM in desperate need of attention. I am sure he is bored now that he has been off daytime's top soap for a while. He strikes me as the type that would do anything for attention, and we have had those types blow in and out of Days in the past.
The fact is, he was an Emmy winning actor on daytime's top soap. Now he is just another ex soap star doing crap-fest movies. Y&R wasn't Michael's fourth tier, it was his top tier. It's obviously down hill from here and he knows it. He is simply hoping that if he makes enough noise, it will look like a win for him. Guess what, it's a big loss for him, and all the grandiose talk about obviously shitty roles cannot cover up that fact. He copped a feel, and ruined his name on a Bell soap.
Go and ask Brenda Dickson if there is life after being black-balled at Y&R. We see how it turned out for her after she ruined her career on this show. Michael: meet the female version of your future, Brenda Dickson. I'm a Days fan, and still it's obvious to me history is repeating itself. The difference, MM was a pervert. Brenda was a lazy drug addict. Past that: Same story, different millennium.
Sorry, just my take
Actually, the top tier of his career was a regular role on Veronica Mars almost a decade ago. Y&R was a downgrade from that. There are rumors about him having been problematic on that show, too. I wasn't on that show, so I can't know it the rumors are true or not.
I think the opposite, Y&R was an upgrade, Veronica Mars never made it to a major network and only lasted 3 years. Usually, I'd agree with OlivaAnn, but as it stands I think SammiJo is right. Veronica Mars was a syndicated series that, as is stated, never found a home and had seasonal ratings between 2 and 2.7 million viewers. To compare, "Days of Our Lives" the current lowest rated daytime drama, has ratings on par, and at times much better than that. Y&R is the gold standard on soaps, and it has been #1 overall in the ratings for decades.
Then you have to look at the effects on MM's career. Y&R is what he is known for, and he won numerous awards for his portrayal on the soap. He was a lead actor during his time in Genoa City, and became of the most buzzed about actors in daytime. On "Veronica Mars", he was not in the lead, and is barely a blip on the radar on that show. That show, though critically loved, never made an impact like Y&R.
Then, look at the time period "Veronica Mars" debuted and ran for three seasons. If a soap had 2 to 2.5 million viewers from 2004-2007, it would get the ax. Y&R during that period had 6 to 7 million viewers. B&B had around 5 million viewers, Days had between 4 and 6 million viewers, and GL had around 3 million viewers in that era. Obviously, people in the industry look down on soaps, but the truth is an actor's goal is to become a household name, garner awards, and build a fanbase. Y&R did this for him. It was the pinnacle.
Now IF MM had been smart, he would have humbled himself and apologized. IF he had been smart, he would have left quietly and he would have sung the praises of TPTB at Y&R, Sony, and CBS. IF he had been smart, he would have admitted what he did, how wrong he was, and actually admitted he needs help. IF he had been smart, he would have stopped his career, did the rehabilitation that most in the industry agree to in these circumstances, and quietly started applying for roles a year and a half to two years after the scandal blew over.
He wasn't smart. He thought, like Victoria R, that the louder he spoke out against the establishment, the better he would look, and the more relevant he would seem. What a fool. How stupid can these people be. It's delusional to think that acting badly can get you work in this industry. It may get you a few headlines, but eventually even the lowest of "reporters" stop talking about the insane ramblings of a disgraced actor.
He has taken one more delusional spin around the sun, and now he is sliding into no man's land where no one will care he won an Emmy at Y&R. It's sad, because he is talented. He is not as talented as HE thinks he is, but he was talented enough to overcome this if he had played his cards right. Now, it's not salvageable.
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Oct 14 2014, 10:59 AM
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OK, so my screen name contains "Days" and my avatar is of Deidre Hall, I'm still well aware of everything going on in the soap world, and I have massive respect for Y&R. I watched it regularly until ATWT was cancelled, and on and off after that. I'll admit that I thought MM was talented. What he doesn't seem to get is his "talent" isn't enough and an actor can't be universally disliked by the rest of the cast and crew. No one is irreplaceable in this industry, and that goes for soaps, movies, prime-time, stage, and music.
These rabid MM fans may exist, but I have often thought they were phantoms that MM enlist to keep his name propped, or worse, a bored MM in desperate need of attention. I am sure he is bored now that he has been off daytime's top soap for a while. He strikes me as the type that would do anything for attention, and we have had those types blow in and out of Days in the past.
The fact is, he was an Emmy winning actor on daytime's top soap. Now he is just another ex soap star doing crap-fest movies. Y&R wasn't Michael's fourth tier, it was his top tier. It's obviously down hill from here and he knows it. He is simply hoping that if he makes enough noise, it will look like a win for him. Guess what, it's a big loss for him, and all the grandiose talk about obviously shitty roles cannot cover up that fact. He copped a feel, and ruined his name on a Bell soap.
Go and ask Brenda Dickson if there is life after being black-balled at Y&R. We see how it turned out for her after she ruined her career on this show. Michael: meet the female version of your future, Brenda Dickson. I'm a Days fan, and still it's obvious to me history is repeating itself. The difference, MM was a pervert. Brenda was a lazy drug addict. Past that: Same story, different millennium.
Sorry, just my take
Actually, the top tier of his career was a regular role on Veronica Mars almost a decade ago. Y&R was a downgrade from that. There are rumors about him having been problematic on that show, too. I wasn't on that show, so I can't know it the rumors are true or not.
I think the opposite, Y&R was an upgrade, Veronica Mars never made it to a major network and only lasted 3 years. Veronica Mars was primetime and actors on primetime shows are more known than daytime actors. Shows on the CW may have lower ratings than soaps, but their actors are more famous than soap stars. If how big a network is or what the ratings of a show are were a measure of anything, actors on cable shows would be D-list celebrities and soap stars would be A-list celebrities. But, the reality is different: even actors on MTV are more famous than soap stars. Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps.
@DaysFanatic79: I didn't want to quote your post because it is long and I didn't want to clog the thread. Veronica Mars wasn't syndicated. It aired on UPN and the CW in a regular time slot, much like any other show. Also, Muhney never won a single award for the role of Adam. He wishes he had.
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Oct 14 2014, 11:04 AM
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He won an Emmy for Y&R? I don't remember that. He was pissed that he never got one.
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Oct 14 2014, 03:03 PM
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and he was let go from VM too, probably roughly the same things too. He thought he was the moon, turned out he was an eclipse that smelled like green cheese! :laugh:
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Oct 15 2014, 10:43 AM
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He won an Emmy for Y&R? I don't remember that. He was pissed that he never got one. He sure was.
There are the threads on here to prove it.
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Oct 15 2014, 11:31 AM
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MM is an attention seeker. Always has been. He's obviously still trying to keep himself relevant but people quite frankly don't give a shit about him anymore.
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Oct 15 2014, 01:39 PM
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OK, so my screen name contains "Days" and my avatar is of Deidre Hall, I'm still well aware of everything going on in the soap world, and I have massive respect for Y&R. I watched it regularly until ATWT was cancelled, and on and off after that. I'll admit that I thought MM was talented. What he doesn't seem to get is his "talent" isn't enough and an actor can't be universally disliked by the rest of the cast and crew. No one is irreplaceable in this industry, and that goes for soaps, movies, prime-time, stage, and music.
These rabid MM fans may exist, but I have often thought they were phantoms that MM enlist to keep his name propped, or worse, a bored MM in desperate need of attention. I am sure he is bored now that he has been off daytime's top soap for a while. He strikes me as the type that would do anything for attention, and we have had those types blow in and out of Days in the past.
The fact is, he was an Emmy winning actor on daytime's top soap. Now he is just another ex soap star doing crap-fest movies. Y&R wasn't Michael's fourth tier, it was his top tier. It's obviously down hill from here and he knows it. He is simply hoping that if he makes enough noise, it will look like a win for him. Guess what, it's a big loss for him, and all the grandiose talk about obviously shitty roles cannot cover up that fact. He copped a feel, and ruined his name on a Bell soap.
Go and ask Brenda Dickson if there is life after being black-balled at Y&R. We see how it turned out for her after she ruined her career on this show. Michael: meet the female version of your future, Brenda Dickson. I'm a Days fan, and still it's obvious to me history is repeating itself. The difference, MM was a pervert. Brenda was a lazy drug addict. Past that: Same story, different millennium.
Sorry, just my take
Actually, the top tier of his career was a regular role on Veronica Mars almost a decade ago. Y&R was a downgrade from that. There are rumors about him having been problematic on that show, too. I wasn't on that show, so I can't know it the rumors are true or not.
I think the opposite, Y&R was an upgrade, Veronica Mars never made it to a major network and only lasted 3 years.
Veronica Mars was primetime and actors on primetime shows are more known than daytime actors. Shows on the CW may have lower ratings than soaps, but their actors are more famous than soap stars. If how big a network is or what the ratings of a show are were a measure of anything, actors on cable shows would be D-list celebrities and soap stars would be A-list celebrities. But, the reality is different: even actors on MTV are more famous than soap stars. Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps. @DaysFanatic79: I didn't want to quote your post because it is long and I didn't want to clog the thread. Veronica Mars wasn't syndicated. It aired on UPN and the CW in a regular time slot, much like any other show. Also, Muhney never won a single award for the role of Adam. He wishes he had. It may have been in a primetime slot but it was not on a primetime channel. I don't how long CW has been a channel, but I have never watched one show on it.
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Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps.
Really? Soaps are a steady gig, no pounding the pavements for a job every few months. All the actors I have read have all said they didn't think they wanted soaps but when they got them, they loved them. Every soap actor is a household name, I can't name you the top 5 screen actors or tv stars. I can't even tell you who was in Veronica Mars other than MM and that's only because he arrived on Y&R for the best gig of his life. Actors on cable shows are all has-beens who can't get sponsors for them to be on network shows.
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I think the opposite, Y&R was an upgrade, Veronica Mars never made it to a major network and only lasted 3 years.
Veronica Mars was primetime and actors on primetime shows are more known than daytime actors. Shows on the CW may have lower ratings than soaps, but their actors are more famous than soap stars. If how big a network is or what the ratings of a show are were a measure of anything, actors on cable shows would be D-list celebrities and soap stars would be A-list celebrities. But, the reality is different: even actors on MTV are more famous than soap stars. Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps. @DaysFanatic79: I didn't want to quote your post because it is long and I didn't want to clog the thread. Veronica Mars wasn't syndicated. It aired on UPN and the CW in a regular time slot, much like any other show. Also, Muhney never won a single award for the role of Adam. He wishes he had.
It may have been in a primetime slot but it was not on a primetime channel. I don't how long CW has been a channel, but I have never watched one show on it. - Quote:
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Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps.
Really? Soaps are a steady gig, no pounding the pavements for a job every few months. All the actors I have read have all said they didn't think they wanted soaps but when they got them, they loved them. Every soap actor is a household name, I can't name you the top 5 screen actors or tv stars. I can't even tell you who was in Veronica Mars other than MM and that's only because he arrived on Y&R for the best gig of his life. Actors on cable shows are all has-beens who can't get sponsors for them to be on network shows. The CW is a broadcast network available nationwide, much like ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox. It was founded in 2006, when the WB and UPN merged. The last two channels exited way back in the 1990s.
Soaps are a steady gig, but a lot of actors have tried moving on from them because they don't pay as well as primetime and don't bring nearly as much as fame. You may not be able to name 5 primetime actors, but the rest of the US can. They know primetime actors better than soap actors. And a lot of actors have returned to soaps after not having much success in movies or primetime.
As for cable actors, the ones on the most successful shows are currently the most well-paid actors at the moment. They can hardly be called has-beens. And, believe me, they're not on cable because they can't be on a network show. (Nor does one need a "sponsor" to get cast on a show, FYI.)
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He won an Emmy for Y&R? I don't remember that. He was pissed that he never got one.
He sure was. There are the threads on here to prove it. Yeah I remember he tried to blame Eric Braeden for it :blah:
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Every soap actor is a household name, I can't name you the top 5 screen actors or tv stars.
Uh no they aren't, the only ones who can claim that are Lucci, Geary and Genie Francis. My dad has never watched soaps a day in his life and even knows who Susan Lucci is.
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He won an Emmy for Y&R? I don't remember that. He was pissed that he never got one.
He sure was. There are the threads on here to prove it.
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Every soap actor is a household name, I can't name you the top 5 screen actors or tv stars.
Uh no they aren't, the only ones who can claim that are Lucci, Geary and Genie Francis. My dad has never watched soaps a day in his life and even knows who Susan Lucci is. My point exactly, I said the stars, not the second fiddles.
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Veronica Mars was primetime and actors on primetime shows are more known than daytime actors. Shows on the CW may have lower ratings than soaps, but their actors are more famous than soap stars. If how big a network is or what the ratings of a show are were a measure of anything, actors on cable shows would be D-list celebrities and soap stars would be A-list celebrities. But, the reality is different: even actors on MTV are more famous than soap stars. Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps. @DaysFanatic79: I didn't want to quote your post because it is long and I didn't want to clog the thread. Veronica Mars wasn't syndicated. It aired on UPN and the CW in a regular time slot, much like any other show. Also, Muhney never won a single award for the role of Adam. He wishes he had.
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Trust me, there is a reason why former soap actors working on networks like the CW or ABC Family have no desire to go back to soaps.
Really? Soaps are a steady gig, no pounding the pavements for a job every few months. All the actors I have read have all said they didn't think they wanted soaps but when they got them, they loved them. Every soap actor is a household name, I can't name you the top 5 screen actors or tv stars. I can't even tell you who was in Veronica Mars other than MM and that's only because he arrived on Y&R for the best gig of his life. Actors on cable shows are all has-beens who can't get sponsors for them to be on network shows.
The CW is a broadcast network available nationwide, much like ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox. It was founded in 2006, when the WB and UPN merged. The last two channels exited way back in the 1990s. Soaps are a steady gig, but a lot of actors have tried moving on from them because they don't pay as well as primetime and don't bring nearly as much as fame. You may not be able to name 5 primetime actors, but the rest of the US can. They know primetime actors better than soap actors. And a lot of actors have returned to soaps after not having much success in movies or primetime. As for cable actors, the ones on the most successful shows are currently the most well-paid actors at the moment. They can hardly be called has-beens. And, believe me, they're not on cable because they can't be on a network show. (Nor does one need a "sponsor" to get cast on a show, FYI.) Uh, yes they do need a sponsor, there are sponsors on the cable shows. FYI I get it, you think MM is the greatest thing since sliced bread and had a failed show on an obscure network that obviously not enough people watched. lol
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